By Llewellyn van der Merwe on 2020-10-17 22:30 in Production

Production Dept. Meeting MINUTES
- October  06, 2020

1900 CEST, UTC+2

Participants: Benjamin Trenkle (Team Leader), Carlos Cámara (Team Leader), George Wilson (Release Lead 4.0) Hannes Papenberg (Team Leader), Harald Leithner (Release Lead 3.9), Llewellyn van der Merwe (Assistant Department Coordinator), Nicola Galgano (Team Leader), Niels Braczek (Team Leader), Philip Walton (Team Leader), Robert Deutz (Team Leader), Tobias Zulauf (Release Lead 3.10),
Absent with notice: David Jardin (Team Leader), Marco Dings (Department Coordinator)
Absent without notice: Mike Brandner (Team Leader), Ilagnayeru Manickam (Team Leader)

Agenda Items & minutes

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Production Department Coordinator (Marco Dings)

Talk Topics:

1. Google Analytics/Tag Manager, Scrutinizer, Greenkeeper, Pingdom: Remove? Keep? [Hannes]
   • Since the Google analytics/tag manager is a Board decision, a request needs to be made to the Board to remove it everywhere and replace it with a self-hosted, opensource, GDPR compliant solution. [Harald]
   • Agreed to remove Scrutinizer, Pingdom, Greenkeeper.

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Joomla Accessibility Team (Carlos Cámara Mora)

Updates/Proposed Topics:

1. Working on Cassiopeia accessibility: Some issues are related to Joomla core itself.

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Automated Testing Team (Hannes Papenberg)

Talk Topics:

1. We need a dedicated maintainer for the framework project.

Updates/Proposed Topics:

1. 60 branches of joomla-framework have been converted to Drone, 10 are still to do. Help would be greatly appreciated. 
2. 4 Repos in github.com/joomla are still not converted to Drone, several don’t have any CI at all.
3. https://framework.joomla.org has been moved to Drone badges

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Releaseleads (Benjamin Trenkle, George Wilson, Tobias Zulauf, Harald Leithner)

* Release lead 4.1 (Benjamin Trenkle)

1. Motion on Benjamin Trenkle as new Release Lead for Joomla! 4.1
   Proposed by Harald Leithner, Seconded: Robert Deutz
   • Accepted

* Release lead 4.0 (George Wilson)

1. No major changes since last meeting. Numbers of issues are still relatively stable and will have conversations with Tobias to go through current release blockers

* Releaseleads 3.10 (Tobias Zulauf):

1. Right now there are discussions about how to improve the pre upgrade checker and com_joomlaupdate regarding not compatible system plugins that might brick the upgrade:
   https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/30930
   https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/30913
2. The PR queue for 3.10-dev has been cleaned up. Only 5 PRs are still open, where three need tests and the other two are WIP right now: https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3APR-3.10-dev

* Releaseleads 3.9 (Harald Leithner):

1. Joomla! 3.9.22 released today.

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Bug Squad (Nicola Galgano)

Talk Topics:

1. RFC accessibility checker for 4.1 https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/30815

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Software Architecture & Strategy Team (Niels Braczek)

Updates/Proposed Topics:

1. Still no motion about the RfC-RfC…
2. Still need a repo for the external framework review...

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CMS Release Team (Philip Walton)

Talk Topics:

1. Work and thought needed to make the upgrade path smoother https://github.com/joomla/joomla-cms/issues/30930

Updates/Proposed Topics:

1. J3.9.22 released and so far so good.

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Other Business

Talk Topics:

1. PBF coming in 11 days, please join
2. Motion: What should happen with abandoned joomla dependencies? (Tobias)